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Windows Vista Ready Boost


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Δεν ξέρω αν έχει δοκιμάσει ποτέ κανείς σας το
Ready Boost
των Vista, αλλά το δοκίμασα χθες και είπα να μοιραστώ την
εμπειρία μου. Στο σπίτι έχω Vista Business εδώ και 1,5 χρόνο και είναι αξιοσημείωτο
το γεγονός ότι δεν έχω κανένα παράπονο.



Για να είμαι ειλικρινής είδα μεγάλη διαφορά. Βέβαια το USB (2.0) που
χρησιμοποίησα ήταν 2GB. Άνοιξα αρκετά προγράμματα ταυτόχρονα και είδα διαφορά
στην ανταπόκριση αφού έχω μόνο 2 GB RAM (απλή DDR!). Φυσικά θα ήταν πολύ καλύτερο
να ξεκουνηθώ επιτέλους και να πάω να πάρω μνήμη, γιατί όπως και να το κάνουμε,
δεν συγκρίνετε με οποιοδήποτε Ready Boost. Να σημειώσω επίσης ότι pagefile
είναι στον ίδιο δίσκο που είναι και το λειτουργικό (SATA WD Raptor 10.000).
Ίσως αν είχα RAID πάνω να μην έβλεπα διαφορά με το Ready Boost. Αν το
έχει δοκιμάσει κάποιος με RAID θα ήθελα να μάθω τη γνώμη του.



Ψάχνοντας βρήκα και ένα πολύ καλό FAQ από τον Matt Ayers που είναι ο Program
Manager του Ready Boost:



From Matt Ayers:

"I'm the Program Manager in the
Microsoft Windows Client Performance group and own the ReadyBoost
feature. I wanted to give some offical answers based on the excellent
questions and discussions that I've seen in this blog, to date. Also,
I'll be using this as a starting point for the official ReadyBoost FAQ.

Overall, as many posters have pointed out, the feature
is designed to improve small random I/O for people who lack the
expansion slots, money, and or technical expertise to add additional
RAM. As y’all know, adding RAM is still the best way to relieve memory
pressure.

Thanks, again, for your interest, questions and ideas."




 

Q: What perf do you need on your device?
A: 2.5MB/sec throughput for 4K random reads and 1.75MB/sec throughput for 512K random writes

Q:
My device says 12MB/sec (or 133x or something else) on the package but
windows says that it isn't fast enough to use as a ReadyBoost device...
why?

A: Two possible reasons:
  1. The numbers measure sequential performance and we measure random.
    We've seen devices that have great sequential perf, but horrible random
  2. The performance isn't consistantly fast across the entire
    device. Some devices have 128M of lightning fast flash and the rest of
    the device is really slow. This is fine for some applications but not
    ReadyBoost.

Q: What's the largest amount of flash that I can use for ReadyBoost?
A: You can use up to 4GB of flash for ReadyBoost (which turns out to be 8GB of cache w/ the compression)

Q: Why can't I use more than 4GB of flash?
A: The FAT32 filesystem limits our ReadyBoost.sfcache file to 4GB

Q: What's the smallest ReadyBoost cache that I can use
A: The smallest cache is 256MB (well, 250 after formatting). Post beta2, we may drop it another 10 MB or so.

Q: Ok... 256M-4GB is a pretty big range... any recommendations?
A:
Yes. We recommend a 1:1 ratio of flash to system memory at the low end
and as high as 2.5:1 flash to system memory. Higher than that and you
won't see much benefit.

Q: Isn't this just putting the paging file onto a flash disk?
A:
Not really - the file is still backed on disk. This is a cache - if the
data is not found in the ReadyBoost cache, we fall back to the HDD.

Q: Aren't Hard Disks faster than flash? My HDD has 80MB/sec throughput.
A:
Hard drives are great for large sequential I/O. For those situations,
ReadyBoost gets out of the way. We concentrate on improving the
performance of small, random I/Os, like paging to and from disk.

Q: What happens when you remove the drive?
A:
When a surprise remove event occurs and we can't find the drive, we
fall back to disk. Again, all pages on the device are backed by a page
on disk. No exceptions. This isn't a separate page file store, but
rather a cache to speed up access to frequently used data.

Q: Isn't user data on a removable device a security risk?
A:
This was one of our first concerns and to mitigate this risk, we use
AES-128 to encrypt everything that we write to the device.

Q: Won't this wear out the drive?
A:
Nope. We're aware of the lifecycle issues with flash drives and are
smart about how and when we do our writes to the device. Our research
shows that we will get at least 10+ years out of flash devices that we
support.

Q: Can use use multiple devices for EMDs?
A: Nope. We've limited Vista to one ReadyBoost per machine

Q: Why just one device?
A:
Time and quality. Since this is the first revision of the feature, we
decided to focus on making the single device exceptional, without the
difficulties of managing multiple caches. We like the idea, though, and
it's under consideration for future versions.

Q: Do you support SD/CF/memory stick/MMC/etc.?
A:
Mostly. In beta2, we added support for a small number of SD/CF cards on
internal USB2 & PCIe busses. RC1 has a much broader support range.

Q: Why don't you support SD on my USB2.0 external card reader?
A:
We unfortunately don't support external card readers - there were some
technical hurdles that we didn't have time to address. In general, if a
card reader shows a drive without media in it (like a floppy drive or
CD ROM does), we can't use it for ReadyBoost.

Q: Will it
support all USB drives, regardless of how they are ID'd to the OS
("hard disk drive" or "Device with Removable Storage")?

A: We
have no way to tell what is on the other end of a USB cable so we do
some basic size checks (since no one has a 200GB flash device ;-) ) and
then perform our speed tests. HDD will not, however, pass our speed
tests, and there is no benefit to using a USB HDD for ReadyBoost.

Q: Can you use an mp3 player to speed up your system?
A:
Not currently. MP3 players use the 'plays for sure' interfaces to
expose themselves to Windows. We require that the device appear as a
disk volume. These aren't currently compatible.

Q: How much of a speed increase are we talking about?
A:
Well, that depends. On average, a RANDOM 4K read from flash is about
10x faster than from HDD. Now, how does that translate to end-user
perf? Under memory pressure and heavy disk activity, the system is much
more responsive; on a 4GB machine with few applications running, the
ReadyBoost effect is much less noticable.

Q: I can't get my device to work with ReadyBoost... can I lower the perf requirements?
A:
Unfortunately, no. We've set the perf requirements to the lowest
possible throughput that still makes your system faster. If we lowered
the perf requirements, then there wouldn't be a noticeable benefit to
using ReadyBoost. Remember, we're not adding memory, we're improving
disk access.

Q: Which manufacturers support ReadyBoost?
A:
Well, I hope that all of them do, eventually. Right now, we're working
with manufacturers to create a program that will allow them to identify
ReadyBoost capable devices on their packaging.

Interview Source: Tom Archer's blog
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To thinkpad x61t μου έχει 2 GB RAM και 1 GB ακόμη σε ένα έξτρα καρτελάκι Intel Turbo Memory (άλλοι έχουν κάρτα Edge) που έχει οριστεί σαν 512 MB ReadyBoost και 512 ΜΒ ReadyDrive. Πρόσφατα έδωσα όλο το 1 GB σε ReadyDrive για να δω συμπεριφορά και σε λίγο θα βάλω μια πρόσθετη SD κάρτα με άφθονη μνήμη για ReadyBoost (έχει 8 και θα δώσω τα 4). Δεν έχεις νέο μηχάνημα αλλά κάθε βελτίωση είναι βολική.

 

Εδώ έχει ένα doc με τεχνικές πληροφορίες για τις "επιταχύνσεις" http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysperf/perfaccel.mspx

 

 

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Κάποια στιγμή στο Public έψαχνα για Vista ReadyBoos USB flashkeys αλλά αυτά που έβρισκα ήταν μικρού μεγέθους σε μνήμη για τα σημερινά δεδομένα αλλά ήταν και αρκετά ακριβά!

Έτσι αποφάσισα να ζήσω χωρίς ReadyFoost :P

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Να σας πώ και εγώ την αμαρτία μου!

Ακούστε τι έκανα!

Προσπάθησα να ενεργοποιήσω το readyboost σε 2008 server

Vaio ώστε να χρησιμοποιείσω ένα SD 2GB για better Perfomance.Υπάρχει τρόπος! Το μαναδικό κακό που έκανα ήταν ότι οι drivers για το readyboost που έβαλα ήταν απο 32bit με αποτέλεσμα πρίν καλά καλά αρχίσω να κάνει mpam το laptopaki μου..κλαπς

Αλλά δεν σταμάτησα εκεί πολύ απλά format και το 2008 server x64 που έχω αλλά και το vista x32 και το έκανα και αυτό χ64 με σκοπό να το κάνω να παίξει!

Όταν το τελειώσω θα σας πώ να ξαναέκανα format (image) ή έπεξε επιτέλους!

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@ GSimos

 

Καλά έκανες! Και εγώ από του χρόνου λέω να κάνω αναβάθμιση σε MB, CPU and RAM για να γλιτώσω από Ready Boost. Να έχω επιτέλους DDR3 :)

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"Πεζω" με τα φλας στα βιστα απο την μπετα 2 εκδοση ...για επιταχυνση

Υστερα απο τοσο καιρο πεζοντας & ζωντας με αφτα καταληξα στα εξης:

Ναι κανουν δουλεια τα φλας στα Βιστα ..ποσο κερδιζεις ...θα σε γελασω ..σιγουρα εχεις κερδος ..το βλεπεις? ναι με συνθηκες ..

Αγοραστε ενα καλο γρηγορο φλας (ειναι θτηνα πλεον)ας πουμε ενα 8 γιγαμπαιτ HyperX from Kingston (http://www.kingston.com/flash/dt_HyperX.asp)

δηλαδη read speed 25MB/sec. and write speed 16MB/sec ...η καλητερο ...για αυτους που θελουν το γρηγοροτερο (& ακριβοτερο) ας πανε στην OCZ (RAID 0 se Flashes!!! Dual Channel Up to 35MB/s (read), 30MB/s (write) !!!!!)

Το βαζετε μονο του σε μια πορτα USB 2.0 (αχ ..ποτε θα βγουν τα 3 ...) χωρις καλωδια , HUBS ,επανω δηλαδη στο Μ/Β σε μια πορτα χωρις να συνδεσεις κατι αλλο στην επανω (κατω) πορτα ...μονο του.

Φορμαρουμε το φλας σε NTFS

Δηωνουμε τα 4 γιγα σαν ReadyBoost

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